Post by -(aaK)- Nav on Dec 20, 2004 23:15:33 GMT
james says:
lol life happened SHIT happened.. whats the diffrence ?
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
not much mate
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
life is but sandstorm of strife, were but nomads finding a way through it
james says:
hmm..
james says:
the way we have to go is not allways the way we want
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
there are many paths though.... the problem is the sand shrowds our eyes, and we cannot see what is before us.... we are blind to our fates
james says:
yet there are ways we can chang our fate still not knowing what it may be
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
but then dosent that dispel fate completely? for fate is meant to be a chosen path, if we change it while we walk it, it is no longer fate, it is a concious choice
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
therefore fate essentailly does not exist
james says:
there fore what stuped fuk maid up fate and do u even beleive in fate ?
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
i dont know who created the concept of fate, what i beleive in is that in life we have key events, things that must and shall occur in an effort to excel our being, but i do not beleive everychoice, every moment is predefined by a celestial being or greater plan
james says:
i beleive we r just beings hear to carry on our race and do watever it takes to survive and there is no such thing
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
that is indeed expotentially our purpose over all, but still, we have the ability to surpass such concepts, to become more and evolve our being as it were... although in the end we are but shadows and dust, through the path to it, we can indeed make changes; to ourselves, to the world around us, to become more than a base human
james says:
true
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
its just a question of just what our minds can acheive and what our souls can endure in life which will define just what type of existance we lead
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
via through pain and strife we could reach enlightenment, through peace and tranquility we could acheive the same thing
james says:
we just try to get through our lives the safest most comfortable way
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
each patch we take is different in its journey, but at its core, if you do intend to become more than a base human its those paths which will help you acheive the objective
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
indeed
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
but safest isnt always best
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
we need to deviate
james says:
yer
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
we need to break from the yolk of pre conceived human ideas and learn to see things from perspectives above base human instincts
james says:
but then who knows what the point is.. and who realy needs to no
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
well if you follow that veiw you simply sacrifice any kind of realisation of yourself and ultimately lose the point of your life, as it is beleived via reaching, let us say this "Nirvana", we find our purpose.... hence why such concepts are so important to those who understand then
james says:
hmm... if there realy is this "nirvana" then what is the point in this life we have to go through not knowing
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
well, perhaps life is but a challenge to reach this nirvana
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
we are born into this sordid world with no knowledge, no imprints apart from our genetics
james says:
but surly we all reach this nirvana anyway ?
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
no
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
not true
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
the concept of self enlightenment is not as simple as live, breed and die
james says:
hm
james says:
how do u no ?
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
to reach nirvana we need to attempt to understand just what life is about, we need to open our minds, find some freedom from the pre conceptions of life and ultimately find a purpose
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
i dont, i merely philosophise about such things
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
these are but musings
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
these are my hopes
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
as these are the only hopes i have left
james says:
hmm
james says:
i have no hopes i know of and not mayn i wish for
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
we all need hopes to keep us going, surely theres something driving you, making you wake each dawn, making you keep on going
james says:
to be able to liv on my own away from parents family and boundries
james says:
have a reasonale income and have found new hobbies
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
well, there you go
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
not aiming high, but it is still a driving force
james says:
hmm..
james says:
supose
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
mmm.....
lol life happened SHIT happened.. whats the diffrence ?
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
not much mate
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
life is but sandstorm of strife, were but nomads finding a way through it
james says:
hmm..
james says:
the way we have to go is not allways the way we want
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
there are many paths though.... the problem is the sand shrowds our eyes, and we cannot see what is before us.... we are blind to our fates
james says:
yet there are ways we can chang our fate still not knowing what it may be
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
but then dosent that dispel fate completely? for fate is meant to be a chosen path, if we change it while we walk it, it is no longer fate, it is a concious choice
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
therefore fate essentailly does not exist
james says:
there fore what stuped fuk maid up fate and do u even beleive in fate ?
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
i dont know who created the concept of fate, what i beleive in is that in life we have key events, things that must and shall occur in an effort to excel our being, but i do not beleive everychoice, every moment is predefined by a celestial being or greater plan
james says:
i beleive we r just beings hear to carry on our race and do watever it takes to survive and there is no such thing
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
that is indeed expotentially our purpose over all, but still, we have the ability to surpass such concepts, to become more and evolve our being as it were... although in the end we are but shadows and dust, through the path to it, we can indeed make changes; to ourselves, to the world around us, to become more than a base human
james says:
true
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
its just a question of just what our minds can acheive and what our souls can endure in life which will define just what type of existance we lead
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
via through pain and strife we could reach enlightenment, through peace and tranquility we could acheive the same thing
james says:
we just try to get through our lives the safest most comfortable way
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
each patch we take is different in its journey, but at its core, if you do intend to become more than a base human its those paths which will help you acheive the objective
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
indeed
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
but safest isnt always best
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
we need to deviate
james says:
yer
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
we need to break from the yolk of pre conceived human ideas and learn to see things from perspectives above base human instincts
james says:
but then who knows what the point is.. and who realy needs to no
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
well if you follow that veiw you simply sacrifice any kind of realisation of yourself and ultimately lose the point of your life, as it is beleived via reaching, let us say this "Nirvana", we find our purpose.... hence why such concepts are so important to those who understand then
james says:
hmm... if there realy is this "nirvana" then what is the point in this life we have to go through not knowing
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
well, perhaps life is but a challenge to reach this nirvana
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
we are born into this sordid world with no knowledge, no imprints apart from our genetics
james says:
but surly we all reach this nirvana anyway ?
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
no
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
not true
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
the concept of self enlightenment is not as simple as live, breed and die
james says:
hm
james says:
how do u no ?
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
to reach nirvana we need to attempt to understand just what life is about, we need to open our minds, find some freedom from the pre conceptions of life and ultimately find a purpose
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
i dont, i merely philosophise about such things
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
these are but musings
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
these are my hopes
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
as these are the only hopes i have left
james says:
hmm
james says:
i have no hopes i know of and not mayn i wish for
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
we all need hopes to keep us going, surely theres something driving you, making you wake each dawn, making you keep on going
james says:
to be able to liv on my own away from parents family and boundries
james says:
have a reasonale income and have found new hobbies
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
well, there you go
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
not aiming high, but it is still a driving force
james says:
hmm..
james says:
supose
Simon Antoni - The drunken philosopher says:
mmm.....